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[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

My native language isn't English in case you were assuming that. I mention it because my native language has gone through a reform for the reasons of simplification. English may be shit, but it was much much easier to learn than the hell I am going through with German. Even Japanese, which I touched for a few years wasn't nearly as bad. The point of languages it to be simple and efficient, and they should evolve to that goal eventually.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The point of languages it to be simple and efficient, and they should evolve to that goal eventually.

That's one hell of an assumption to bring to the table. There is no point to language, no end goal towards which they must, or even should evolve. They're a natural creation of humans to facilitate communication, but coming from human beings, they're naturally quite irregular and odd, at times.

I mean, I get it that German isn't a cakewalk to pick up, but you're also complaining about the unreasonable complexity in one of the less morphologically complex European languages. Take a gander at Polish, Icelandic, Basque, or Finnish, and German will probably seem quite charming and quaint with its handful of cases and corresponding forms of the articles.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They're a natural creation of humans to facilitate communication

If a language is easy to learn and easy to use, more people will speak it. The languages that don't adapt die with the people who still insist on using it. There is an evolution and there is a goal, as you said, to communicate. A simpler language is bound to be chosen over one that adds obstacles to communication.

In the same way evolution is mostly driven by an animal's ability to pass off its genes, language is mostly driven by it's ability to be used and learned.

Now I'm thinking about Esperanto, maybe that is not completely true, idk

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What's complex is very relative to you and what you grew up with. I am not picking up english for everything because it's simpler and I won't convince my friends either.

Can't even get them off Whatsapp 😂 Let's speak Esperanto then ..

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