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A Microsoft researcher built a goat-powered LLM in Age of Empires II to prove it's not sentient (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 129 points 2 months ago (73 children)

LLMs are not sentient, but this gimmick doesn't prove that.

There's nothing to indicate the human brain can't be implemented in a Turing machine too.

[–] CatAssTrophy@safest.space -1 points 2 months ago (11 children)

There may not be proof that LLMs aren't sentient, but there is some evidence and reason to believe that consciousness is an emergent property of quantum effects, whereas turing machines are relegated to classical mechanics. The same evidence would indicate it is unlikely that a turing machine could replicate the human brain since it uses fundamentally different layers of reality to calculate/think.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there evidence or more like philosophical musings that consciousness is an ill-defined weird magical thing and quantum physics is similarly a weird magical thing and thus it's a kind of fitting assertion that they are related?

At least to the extent I've seen the point presented, it seems to feel more like musings than scientific effort.

[–] CatAssTrophy@safest.space 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is some limited empirical evidence to support the hypothesis, yes.

For example:

Through state-of-the-art spectroscopic techniques, specifically two-dimensional electronic spectroscopy (2DES), we've detected quantum coherent processes in the microtubules within neural structures. This provides empirical support to our hypothesis about the role of quantum mechanisms in cognition. Furthermore, we provide substantial empirical evidence for quantum mechanisms underlying cognitive processes, including decision-making and memory recall, and present a quantum model of consciousness.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374724769_Quantum_Consciousness_Empirical_Evidence_for_Quantum_Mechanisms_in_Human_Cognition_and_Consciousness

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2025.1676585/full

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