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[–] bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 month ago (105 children)

As much as I find chickens, and all avians in general, cute and I find it sickening the way they are treated... I do love eggs, they're tasty, versatile, easy to cook, and unbelievably healthy.

I think the differential we have to identify is one thing, and that is scale.

I am not a vegan, I do not believe it is wrong to consume animals or animal-sourced products, however I do support animal welfare and believe that if we are to raise livestock for consumption they should be treated as the sentient, thinking, feeling creatures that they are and cared for accordingly.

Imagine instead of human and animal rights we just had "sentient rights", for example.

Being able to test for sentience is a topic in and of itself, and out of scope for my argument.

I think there is no harm done in, a hypothetical world where people had the space to do such a thing, raising our own livestock, limited to individual homesteads or the immediate settlement (a local town market, for example).

The line where it becomes unethical is quite obvious really, are the animals treated as living things, or machines to simply fuel and feed to grow them for slaughter and harvest? Yes, in my example of fair treatment the goal may be to raise them for eventual slaughter, but its their lifelong treatment where this applies, not the overall objective.

[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 5 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Btw, veganism is really about just minimizing the harm you cause to the world. Don’t let any puritans tell you otherwise. What you have described is a form of veganism! Admittedly, it’s a little bit minimalistic, but it’s still something!

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know that there's any one thing that veganism is "all about", per se. There are a ton of good reasons to eat fewer animal products, and everyone can cut out some level of extra saturated fat in their diets. The ability to cull and harvest a disgusting level of animal meat is the reason heart disease is the number one killer of modern humans

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just because your vegan doesn't mean you don't eat saturated fats. Coconut oil exists and I use way too much of that shit.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I'm not even fully vegan, I just eat animal fats in heavy moderation and balance them with lots of plants and exercise. I'm not perfect, I like eggs, but eggs aren't fucking healthy in any context. And that's only one of the several phenomenal reasons to eat way fewer animal products and more plant based & home-cooked.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

There are a ton of good reasons to eat fewer animal products...

And none of those reasons are veganism. Veganism provides a singular reason to not exploit animals any more than we need to for survival.

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