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[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 122 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (28 children)

I'm sorry you were forced to be in that position.

My dad was number 14. He was once asked for advice by a man who had several children already and wanted more. My dad's advice?

"Stop."

My dad went on to explain that this guy was already neglecting his current children and that it was abuse to continue. Because there simply isn't enough time and resources available.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Maybe it's just cuz I've got a neurospicy bean who is AuDHD and PDA af, but I do not understand how people can have more than a couple kids. Hell, my wife is the oldest of 5 and it's crazy how much abuse I now see they all endured (both neglect and actual SA abuse of the youngest ones that wasn't brought to light until a few years ago).

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

often it's just the lack of contraception and/or appropriate education.

[–] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, some people get a thrill out of the power of making more people, of having a huge family, even if they don't take good care of them.

I personally don't get it. But I have a friend who is a really incompetent person - when we hang out, we have to make extra sure she doesn't do dangerous things like she is a child. She is a sweet person, but very oblivious in a way that is hard to put a pin on. She is married, and her husband takes care of her and has always seemed to kind of like the responsibility. To each their own. But they now have 2 kids and he is completely overwhelmed. But she wants more and keeps talking about trying to talk him into it or 'oops' getting pregnant again in a few years. We all yell at her when she says stuff like that.

It is the perfect flip-flop of the usual gender roles - where Dad has all the responsibility and doesn't want more, and Mom just sees it as some kind of power trip about her self image and is oblivious or just doesn't care that it would break her partner.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are certainly people who choose to do this. But in the time period pictured, it is more likely that this woman had no other choice.

[–] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely. Women were basically property then and no one had any concept of 'spousal rape'.

I was more addressing the mentality when people do it now - that it shouldn't be assumed to be ignorance about birth control

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

That’s fair, there certainly can be a power dynamic shift within a relationship with regard to number of children.

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