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Linus Torvalds tells AI haters to fork off: Linux supremo says contributors opposed to AI use can 'just walk away' (lore.kernel.org)
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[โ€“] Armand1@lemmy.world 173 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I realize that some people really dislike AI, but this is an area where I'm willing to absolutely put my foot down as the top-level maintainer. Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects, and if somebody has issues with that, they can do the open-source thing and fork it. Or just walk away. AI is a tool, just like other tools we use. And it's clearly a useful one.

I think broadly speaking what he says is reasonable. If you don't want to use AI, then don't, but I think it can be used somewhat responsibly.

I have all sorts of issues with AI tooling:

  • the centralization of power
  • the load it adds on maintainers because of the amount of slop bad developers (and non-devs) produce with it
  • the environmental impacts of using larger models
  • the data centers causing health risks
  • the impact on the PC industry
  • the degeneration of skills and knowledge.

That said, it's a tool, and can be used to amplify good work too.

[โ€“] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a non-dev person who recently started using AI to get into doing some computer programming, I think the marketing by the CEOs has done a lot of harm. People who truly know what they're doing and who are very careful thinkers could see all along that this technology is not at a point to where the following hype was true:

-it will not entirely replace human workers,

-it's almost certainly not going to be better at what it's doing than a true expert,

-and it remains to be seen whether or not it will ever be able to generate truly unique, bespoke, and fundamentally new solutions.. you know, like what humans had to do for every single issue that came before..

And what it's really good at from my perspective is allowing a non-expert person to generate productive materials in an area where they are not a master-level technician/developer/knowledge worker. It has really dissolved the barrier of entry and the value associated with routine technical skills, for better or worse.

The practical issues though involved with massive data centers, the price rises associated with computer parts, and all the other environmental garbage that's happening is pretty discouraging though. This technology has legit potential for benefit, but the companies and CEOs have ultimately made it into a moral conundrum whether or not it should be put to use.

Typical capitalism, imo ..

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