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[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (33 children)

Some people take joy in hurting others. I have no faith that we can fix that.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (32 children)

Fix? Not without some eugenics (traditional or modern). Mitigate? We can definitely mitigate it. There was a study recently that showed that it's not really the punishment for a crime that dieters people, it's the probability they will or won't get caught that's the primary factor. So for instance if there's a 98% chance they will get caught people are unlikely to commit the crime and if there is a 5% chance they will be caught they are much more likely to commit the crime even if the punishment is extremely harsh. There's of course a balancing act between personal freedoms and privacy and the ability to catch people aka the more privacy people have the more difficult it is to catch crime and generally the less privacy (and ability to parse large sums of data) the easier it is.

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (31 children)

Eugenics, yeah, cool. Love it.

Laws aren't a tool for preventing bad outcomes, and if you think they're the primary tool you are not a serious person and will not create a functional society.

You would rather change what humanity is on a biological level than fucking acknowledge that existing power structures are nonsense and horrible?

I would ask what drugs you're on, but since monday I've been on or around people who were on acid molly coke meth weed severe head trauma alcohol none of their prescribed antipsychotics dilotted and some rich people designer bullshit that's just strings of letters and numbers I can never remember. None of it made any of them this deranged.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In case you haven't been paying attention, it would seem on average a solid third to half of all humans are just inherently fascist. Until they're gone you will inevitably end up with a fascist society.

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'Inherently'

That's bullshit. They're no more inherently fascist than they are inherently Christian, and not all fascists are or were eugenicists.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Far right populist fascism is on the rise literally everywhere and has some or all control of what, like half the first world governments? More of the rest. And you don't think that's evidence of an issue?

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Are you going to argue that the public has no agency and it's only the people running things that are fascist? Because that's dumb as fuck in representative democracies where the people largely choose their representation and guess fuckin what? They keep choosing fucking fascists. That makes them fuckin fascists. You following along now or do I need to use smaller words so you can follow A to B? Is nobody capable of fuckin abstract thought anymore? Why would fascism be on the rise? Because there's a lot of fuckin fascists and they vote. Gah.

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think the word 'inherently' means?

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's your fuckin hangup here? Not familiar with literally any fuckin history whatsoever? Fascism is the fuckin default you walnut. And I was being generous, it's closer to half and most of the rest would look the other way while those fascists kill people like me. Fuck your faux intellectualism, you just come off like a smug cunt.

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What do you think the word 'inherently' means?

I am a smug cunt. My user name is a reference to a fucking painting. The question stands.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Who the fuck mentioned your user name? I'm taking about your ignorant attempt at a gotcha over semantic bullshit because you don't have a legitimate rebuttal to a third of the population being inherently fascist.

Oh fuck you're a seven day old account, fucking ml sock puppets should be banned. I'm arguing with a propaganda bot.

Its not semantic. What do you think the word "inherently" means?

Because it very much changes the meaning of what you said, compared to its hypothetical absence. I already think you're fucking stupid. There's no shame to be had explaining yourself here.

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