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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (19 children)

.8 birth rate is going to be a huge problem for South Korea in a few years. The rest are just "oh no, capitalism's infinite growth will be finite after all"

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Can you elaborate? Why 0.8 in South Korea is so much worse than 1.08 in Poland?

[–] the_strange@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The growth (or in this case decline) is exponential. 1.08 is bad, 0.80 is terrifying. 1.08 is roughly half of the fertility needed for a stable population (about 2.1 children per woman). This means that per generation your population shrinks by half its size. 0.8 is another 25% lower. At an exponential rate these differences add up fast. The first one gives you (roughly) one child per 8 great grandparents. The other one needs 18. So over 3 generations the population shrinks by another factor of more than a half.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wait, is the chart ”births per person” or ”per woman”? I was reading it as per person, so 1.08 per person would be about 2.16 per woman.

Edit: probably per woman. Lines up better with https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=JP . Grumble grumble numbers without units.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Grumble grumble numbers without units.

You and both, buddy. Grumble!

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