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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (15 children)

The valuation of the stock is based on Musk doing what he's always done, which is making seemingly impossible promises sometime in the future.

You know what he promised by 2025? A fleet of driverless Tesla taxis. xAI producing the first AGI. A human being on Mars planting a flag.

You know what the evaluation of SpaceX is based on? The promise of a Mars colony with one million human inhabitants, and space-based data centers. It's going to be decades before it's worth the IPO, if ever.

In the meantime SpaceX is in debt 20 billion, and is bleeding money. It lost $4.94 billion in 2025.

So it looks to me like a private equity project. Like Toys 'R Us or Radio Shack or Claire's. Remember those?

And Nasdaq-100 is fast-tracking SpaceX into its portfolio after 15 days. Soon, pension funds and 401(k)s are going to feature SpaceX stocks. So when it does implode, a lot of worker-class folk are going to eat the loss.

You know who I bet will not be eating the loss? Trillionaire Elon Musk.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My favorite part about data centers in space is it may actually be impossible from a physics standpoint to build the heat radiators large enough for even a small one. Even though space is cold and would seem to make sense, it is also a destructive vacuum and to radiate even a small amount of heat outside of a shielded core would take a huge array of radiators

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s possible, but not economical.

For basically any “space datacenter” scenario, imagine putting that same thing in a vast desert instead. You’ll find it’s easier and an order of magnitude cheaper.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, maybe not impossible, but I mean extremely unlikely. I found a thread on reddit that had examples and a spreadsheet https://www.reddit.com/r/IsaacArthur/comments/11kp7s4/how_large_of_a_heatradiator_would_a_spacecraft/

To run a data center in space you would need some kind of reactor producing around 100 MW. If rejecting 100 MW at 800 K

A= 100,000,000 / 0.85×5.670374419e−8×800

The number is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant (σ) https://physics.knox.edu/OnlineHW/zTest-PhysicalConstants.html

A≈5,065 m²

So roughly:

5,100 m² of radiating surface

That is a square about:

√(5065) ≈71 m per side

If it is a double-sided radiator panel, the physical panel area could be about half:

2,530 m² of panel, about 50 m × 50 m, assuming both sides radiate effectively.

Also temperature matters enormously so

At emissivity 0.85:

Radiator temp Area for 100 MW
300 K ~256,000 m²
500 K ~33,200 m²
800 K ~5,100 m²

So the answer is about 5,000 m² (lol this is like "a football field" on each side) at 800 K, but balloons to absurd levels like hundreds of thousands of m² if you are trying to dump room-temperature waste heat which there would be a significant amount of. That is for a single small data center at current power needs. In the US alone data centers use 176 TWh (https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48646), so there is no chance we are going to be migrating a significant portion of it into space.

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