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A touch of AI is all it takes to trigger backlash, as a promising new indie falls afoul of slop skeptics (www.pcgamer.com)

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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/28095114

Vapor World: Over The Mind is a Soulslike Metroidvania with an evocative, painterly art style reminiscent of Lies of P and the narrative platformers of Playdead. According to Korean studio Alive Inc, the game had 100,000 wishlists just before its early access launch on August 19, mostly on the strength of a demo available since January 2025.

But what should have been a triumphant early access launch went pear shaped very quickly. At launch, few talked about the quite distinctive worldbuilding or the parry-heavy combat. Instead, all focus was trained entirely on something absent from the popular demo: very obvious AI use.

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[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 12 hours ago (19 children)

It's almost as if neither "ai can do everything for me" nor the ai witch hunting are healthy approaches, but, as always, people keep polarizing themselves to hate on the opposite tribe.

I'm so fucking tired of this bullshit...

[–] Fawkes@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Yyyyyyyyup. Even attempts at honest discussion get polarized. "If you use AI(LLMs) you're an unethical AI-Bro!"

Oh... I didn't realize that my self-hosted open source small model trained on Wikipedia and Stack Exchange was unethical. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (5 children)

Yes, you are acting unethical. Your self-hosted model is neither open nor was it trained with consent. Using them is just as unethical as using the models from OpenAI.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Some models do use open datasets and largely reproducible training, with the Nvidia Nemotron series being the highest profile example. You are right that many are opaque about training data, though, and this is not okay.

Using them is just as unethical as using the models from OpenAI.

And I vehemently disagree with this.

OpenAI is a different order of magnitude of moral depravity. Thats like saying using Lemmy is just as bad as using Facebook or Palantir.

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