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[–] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (62 children)

I'm not necessarily in favor of data centers. That said, every time I see something like this I just wonder when we are going to start hearing about data centers being built in poor countries powered exclusively by coal and zero regulation. I really have no idea what a good outcome looks like but playing ultra hardball seems unwise. I'm very poorly educated on data centers and AI in general. But, I am an expert in electrical generation. I know we could do it pretty clean, at least relative to coal/heavy oil. I don't think stopping data centers built in the US will magically cease the boulder rolling in the AI direction. Seems like the money is at its back so its going to happen, just a matter of when, where and how dirty.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think there are definitely ways to do these data centers that have minimal external impacts, but it costs money and time, and they are trying to rush these through as fast as possible.

[–] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, tough to have a good faith conversation about it.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Some folks dislike AI but use other justifications to hate on them.

Some folks are accelerationists at all costs.

Some read about the criminals in the field (xai) and assume that everyone is like that.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

We do both. Every day.

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