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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 14 points 22 hours ago (18 children)

There is no value in telling people to stop fighting.

Let's see what was written.

TLDR; It fucks up accessibility for blind people (amongst others).

Its also pretty futile imo. AI is reading billions of words from books and posts. A handful of users obfuscating their posts is not going to do anything.

I don't believe I saw "stop fighting" in those sentences.

I did see "this fucks things up for many people, and this has little to no impact on ai scraping."

You have a very different interpretation of those sentences from me. I'd also point out the root of the issue has nothing to do with llm's, and everything to do with capitalism.

Maybe try fighting the cause of the problem rather than the most recent means of exploitation?

[–] Toga77@lemmy.world -4 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The cause of the problem is being bolstered by the companies that make gen AI my dude. They're all the in the same trench coat, and they also make the accessibility laws.

I hate to tell you this but America has been captured by corporations for decades. Fuck them, and fuck anyone who dares to tell me stop fighting.

This screams astro turfing campaign against users fighting, and I'm not buying it.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The cause of the problem is ~~being bolstered by~~ the companies ~~that make gen AI~~

Whether its gen ai or something else, the root cause is the same.

You are suggesting something that breaks things for a good number of people and has little to no impact on a specific subset of a specific type of company is the only way to fight back.

That is nonsense.

[–] Toga77@lemmy.world -4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I am not saying that is the only way. Comprehension is fun.

I am saying that trying to actively snuff out the embers of fighting is wrong and the author presents zero solutions

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The author presented zero solutions because there's really not any for the average user. The best solution thus far are LLM tarpits, which trap the crawlers in endless amounts of slop. Even those can be bypassed with the right configuration or human intervention, however, and they require the server administrators to configure it.

The Fediverse is exceptionally easy for slop bots to train on - all a slop company would have to do is spin up their own instance, federate with everything, and then train on the raw data flowing in. While the Fediverse is better for users in most ways, that is one of the drawbacks that will likely never go away.

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