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[–] promitheas@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago (19 children)

You just need to keep an eye on the news and it won't happen 99% of the time. Ive got it set up so news updates go to my email in a specific folder. That means i get the notification on my phone as well. Or just get into the habit of checking the page before updating

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (18 children)

I don't need more shit to remember to do. I need a computer that works without me micromanaging it

[–] promitheas@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Thats fine, then arch just isnt for you. Use what you want, but if someone installs arch then complains that it broke because they didnt check the news (something that the maintainers recommend you do) then the blame/fault shifts to the user, not the system.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That is why I am using Tumbleweed, rolling release without the expectation of reading news before hitting zypper dup and stuff still being fine. The price for that is a few days of delay for testing, so that major stuff does not break.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Manjaro has also shown how an Arch distro can achieve this as well, by releasing tested sets of updates slower.

But OP is correct in that's not the point of vanilla Arch and people who use vanilla should assume the risks.

What's annoying is people who use vanilla and tell everybody "oh don't worry nothing ever breaks". Something always breaks. You have a couple thousand packages installed on the average desktop system, dozens are updated to bleeding edge every day, something will break.

Manjaro maintains a crowd-sourced list of the most egregious defects (+ their fixes) that crop up in popular packages, suffice to say it's never empty.

Many of them are not system-breaking and may not impact everyone, which is where I'm guessing the "nothing ever breaks" dissonance is coming from.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Fair enough. I am all for choosing a distro that aligns with the own reqirements. It is strange to use a misaligned distro and then complain about it.

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