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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

The Chinese government being much more fans of a directed market than of a totally unregulated one (neither of which is a Free Market by the way - that thing only exists when barriers to market entry are incredibly low, and it's not as if any Jack or Joe can set up their very own memory production cottage factory in their backyard, so it's not possible for there to be a Free Market in RAM under current technology), they'll probably make sure that RAM only ever leaves China as part of more complex products (i.e. computers, smartphones, tablets and so on) made in China, thus making also Made In China for those product lines be more competitive.

(In other words, want a gaming PC or smartphone with more memory - buy the whole thing from China or pay 10x more)

If properly managed this could boost quite a lot more digital electronics industries in China than merelly RAM.

[–] wicked@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

they'll probably make sure that RAM only ever leaves China as part of more complex products

Which other components are subject to this limitation in China?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

It's about complex products which contain RAM rather than other component.

Anything made in China which has RAM in it will have its price affected by the price of RAM so if Chinese brands of such products have access to cheaper RAM than non-Chinese brands, they can outcompete the latter on price whilst delivering similar quality products.

Personally I tend to assemble my own desktop PCs, but for example in the past when buying a Mini-PC I would pick a Chinese brand one if cheaper since the quality is the same. Now imagine if the Chinese brand is now 1/2 the price of the non-Chinese one because the former uses RAM from China whose price is nowhere as high as the hyper-inflated South Korean RAM - in this kind of device were the quality is the same, the Chinese product will always be the better option if it's half the price because of using way cheaper RAM.

[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Honestly it'll probably be more like 3 or 4 times cheaper. I'm excited for the effects of this to start to balloon outwards. Now China just needs a graphics card/GPU manufacturer that can be competitive.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are working on cracking EUV lithography. From the sweatshop of the west to leading in 58 of 65 advanced technologies already. Neoliberalism has been the ruin of the west.

[–] crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to a list of the 65 advanced technologies? I'd be quite interested in checking it out.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was mentioned in the later part of this video: Eurasia Breaks USA: Three Front Defeat Forming | Prof. Radhika Desai.

But the source is this ASPI "Australian Strategy Policy Institute". Ah found it: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/aspis-critical-technology-tracker-2025-updates-and-10-new-technologies/

In total, China now leads in 66 of the 74 technologies tracked, with the United States leading in the remaining eight—an imbalance that underscores why trusted partners need to act together to leverage comparative advantages, reduce concentration risk and shape the trajectory of critical technologies together.

Here is the list of technologies: https://techtracker.aspi.org.au/list-of-technologies The website seems a bit of a mess.

The video frames this as a function of neoliberalism slowly bleeding education and fundamental research dry (and also destroying demand because nobody can afford anything any more).

And also China has 1.4 billion people, invested into them and has slowly crept up the technology ladder, and now turn out an order of magnitude more engineers every year than the west.

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