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[–] r1veRRR@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

Well, sure, but when everyone loses their fucking minds about the tiniest thing, that even requires us to buy all the lies from billionaires about how much the build out will be, while having never done anything about the biggest thing they could personally change, it starts sounding mightily hypocritical.

It seems like the personal responsibility to boycott polluting and unnecessary industries is limited to whatever doesn't require any personal effort from the person speaking.

Napkin math:

  • 40% of americans are very or extremely concerned about AIs environmental impact
  • To save 34 million tonnes of CO2e, you need about 5.2 million vegans from now until 2030
  • So only 5% of ONLY the complainers would need to go vegan to make up for this "tremendous" impact
  • That's 2% of all americans

That's the thing we're even attacking random strangers online for. The thing that we pretend is going to bring about the end times. But sure, veganism is the extreme position.....

By the way, what other resources are we saving?

  • Water — about 8.8 trillion gallons (~33 billion m³)
  • Land — around 1–1.5 million acres of forest/land
  • Animals — roughly 8 billion animals including fish and shellfish
[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (19 children)

More than one thing can be bad.

Why don't we do both? Less AI, Less Meat

Also, I'm not American, don't insult me by assuming I'm one

[–] iopq@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Or, just eat less meat and you can still have AI

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

or have double meat and no ai.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bad for heart health, unless it's chicken which already has much lower emissions in the first place

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI is bad for your brain and society, so there's that.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AI is great for society. Just because it's still in its early years doesn't mean we won't have better uses for it later.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, just handwave the damage and fast forward a century.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the only way we can get out of having to do boring, repetitive jobs literately forever until the end of time.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah such as (checks notes) Art, Music, Writing and joy, so we can (checks notes) be the condom between Claude and Production, be a babysitter for a stupid AI, and have our livelihoods destroyed.

I love that

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not everyone likes AI art or music. I have no qualms about AI email spam. I am cheering for the "corporate email marketing" team to be eliminated as a position

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well yeah, that's cause you're a shill with no sense of taste and bad opinions

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, you're just a dipshit, fair

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