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[–] Captain_Baka@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Solar+battery is not an actual thing. We're talking society scale here, not remote cabin.

https://www.pv-magazine.de/2026/08/13/batteriespeicher-mit-rund-500-megawattstunden-kapazitaet-in-sachsen-anhalt-eingeweiht/

Germany opened a new battery storage just this week. It has so much capacity that it can power a city like Leipzig over a night completely. And there are plans to upgrade it from 500 megawatthours to 800 megawatthours before 2026 ends. That's not just remote cabin scale to me.

Hydro, although great in many ways, causes immense ecological devastation and is not suitable for all places.

Okay, here i gotta agree with you.

Nuclear also has issues but a mix of wind+solar on a base of hydro+nuclear is probably the ideal.

"Issues". Yeah. The deadly waste nuclear plants produce is just a minor "issue". And I'm not even talking about safety in general (Chernobyl, Fukushima, Three Mile Island).

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub -5 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I'm sure batteries will play an important role in the future, but it's not significant today and I don't see any indication of this changing rapidly in a meaningful way. I'd love to be wrong though.

Regarding the issues with nuclear power, the ecological impact is far better than hydro and health impact/deaths is also significantly better. I'm not trying to badmouth hydro here, but I think it's important to be fair and acknowledge that on those two issues (ecological impact, human health) nuclear has a better track record.

[–] Hellgruen@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For context, global energy output is 30k TWh/year. That's T for tera.

[–] Hellgruen@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For context, that’s growth, not total capacity. And after covid one would suspect ppl would understand exponential growth and to understand what that means for a business Modell $$$

Also we don’t need capacity for the whole output of a year.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For even more context, the annual growth in electricity output is about 5x the addition of battery capacity.

[–] Hellgruen@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn’t change the fact that battery storage is a business case with exponential growth and is just taking off while nuclear power is expensive, takes long time to plan and build and all the new fancy stuff is still hypothetical and it’s not certain it will ever take off in regard of recent bankruptcy’s in the smr field

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

True, and if we can make cheap batteries (e.g. sodium based) at scale then it absolutely could become a thing over the next decades. I just don't want energy transition to hinge on unproven tech. We can't play around with this, climate change is way too serious.

[–] Hellgruen@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There is more to consider than simple napkin math. There already isn’t enough lithium mining capacity on the planet to transfer the world to EVs and it is already not keeping up with demand. What do you think will happen if we want to provide back up power for entire countries with batteries? It’s not feasible.

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